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Post by kash913 on May 30, 2015 8:11:20 GMT -5
How much BH209 did you use? I will be shooting it in one of my McRems soon with the 270 e max and 275 MH. Which 275 parker where you shooting? Scott 95 grains 275 parker BE with a wad |
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Post by doggzoe on Sept 4, 2015 14:17:43 GMT -5
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Post by al53 on Sept 4, 2015 14:45:05 GMT -5
Thats great shooting...the rifle is performing .that load seems to work great in that rifle..i have a RemShil being built by Cole and I hope it shoots as good as that..,.I am sure it will...
have you tried a bit higher loads..just curious...but that one sure shoots nice
AL
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2015 16:02:05 GMT -5
Nice shooting!
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Post by BuckDoeHunter on Sept 4, 2015 16:17:39 GMT -5
Very Nice!
How was loading pressure?
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Post by doggzoe on Sept 4, 2015 22:12:12 GMT -5
I have tried some higher charge weights of 4198 but this seems to be the best so far.
Loading pressure was a light but firm two hands.
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Post by Dave W on Sept 5, 2015 5:43:25 GMT -5
Looking very good, nice shooting!
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Post by elkman1310 on Sept 6, 2015 10:53:59 GMT -5
Myers built you a very nice rifle but since you went to all the time and money to build a high performance 45Cal muzzleloader why are you shooting XTP bullets and BH209 powder. You have a match grade rifle there. Shilen 45cal barrels love 250GR and 300GR SST bullets. They really love 270 E-Max Parker bullets.
Make life simple load 70grs of IMR 4198 with 300gr bullets and a CCI mag 209 primer or the Federal 209A and a good heavy wad and it will shoot much better than that. 250,275 BE or 270 E-Max put 73grs IMR 4198 and the same primers and wad and you will be amazed how well that gun will shoot. I have found the Shilen barrel will shoot sized bullets without the wad but the loading pressure is more critical. It would be all right for a second follow up shot in a hunting type condition.
There is no doubt in my mind that a Shilen .457 1-20 twist barrel will shoot. They are a top quality barrel and the delivery time has run on average 4-6 weeks every time I place a order. I have 6 more on order but they are all sold.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2015 11:06:28 GMT -5
Why did you go through all the time to build a BR specific muzzleloader and then shoot bricks out of it??? Everyone is free to do what they want with their rifles. I only did the barreled action which shows that the owner did a fine job fitting and bedding his stock on this one.
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Post by elkman1310 on Sept 6, 2015 13:35:44 GMT -5
Myers you can't seem to understand when someone is giving you a little praise about the work you did. And for your information I normally always shoot Parkers in all my muzzleloaders at distances greater than 300 yards. Shooting the 300gr SST was strictly a test to see how they would do at that distance and to see if the B.C. would match what Hornady claims. Which it did.
Also in my post I stated that the 300gr SST is maxed out at 600 yards. The terminal performance would not be as good as a Parker would be. But there are a lot of guys that can't afford Parker bullets to shoot all the time. This test was strictly for that purpose. Judging by the number of people that read the post there was a lot of interest in the test.
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Post by Richard on Sept 6, 2015 13:57:43 GMT -5
Nice shooting doggzoe! Nothing wrong with the way those 290 TEZ "bricks" are grouping.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2015 14:41:06 GMT -5
Maybe elkman and Richard shouldn't add a "why would you do that?" to every compliment you make. Maybe that's a br thing too but for the most part it just sounds like "good enough, but I have a better idea."
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2015 16:19:59 GMT -5
Myers, your a big meany! Myers McMeanerton...  No, seriously...its my opinion that you are handicapping any of these SMLs at 300+, when you're NOT shooting a MH or APB. Less than 300 yards,a tootsie roll style bullet will work just fine. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2015 17:15:44 GMT -5
not a meany! Just no shut off valve... Haha ok maybe a meany too!  |
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Post by deadeer on Sept 6, 2015 21:23:37 GMT -5
This was the last target I shot with sabots out of my Shilen. 11/49.5 N110/H322, distance was 200yds. Blew a sabot on the 3rd shot with the 195BX but that was before Barnes changed their bullets and went to a more squared off base like the XTPs, alleviating the sabot blowing issues.  Think 56gr H4198 was a good load with the 200 XTP with that barrel also. Lots of guys have went to Savageshooters 10/50 4759/H4198 duplex, came along after I went sabotless, but seems to be a favorite and not temp sensitive. Tar12 had a good N120 load but I have never shot that powder. Someone here surely knows the load or you could PM Tar12. I had to knurl the Barnes or they would not shoot for me. Your mileage may vary. The magic load was 60gr N120. It is even more accurate for me with sabots than the 10/50 load, when I shoot them. Jay |
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Post by doggzoe on Sept 6, 2015 23:03:07 GMT -5
Elkman
I shot the XTP's to get comfortable with the gun and while waiting for my sizing die and I did not shoot any B209. That was a side conversation someone else was having. I feel XTP's kill a deer just as dead as any other bullet under a 150 yard with a behind the shoulder shot(counting 2 a year since 05). After that they may not be as accurate and I would not go any further with them on a shot. The last test I posted was with 290 Barnes tez, which shot pretty good for me. I think the all copper bullet would be pretty devastating on a deer to 250 yards or so. I will up the charge on the next trial to 60gr of 4198 but still have the 10gr of 4759 to back up the ignition. Better safe than sorry IMO. I am still planning on testing some more 250 thru 300be's
I also plan on another build in the future in .45 as I have acquired two more rem 700ml in SS (really only wanted one but won two).
I like you am very happy with the Shilen barrel and will more than likely go this route again.
Don
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Post by doggzoe on Sept 6, 2015 23:21:25 GMT -5
Thanks Richard. I will take bricks like that a 100 yards day in and day out. Heck every animal I have taken in the last 10 years has been under 100yds with 250gr XTPS. The one deer that went the furthest was a hundred yards so these 290gr bullets shooting this good being pushed this fast...no worries.
Don
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Post by doggzoe on Sept 6, 2015 23:30:17 GMT -5
Cole They have counseling for that. 1-800-BEANICEGUY. If the line is busy please try again.  |
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