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Post by jeff on Mar 27, 2015 17:55:10 GMT -5
After recently listing a turn key rifle for sale on the classifieds, I was accused of a raping price by CMC publicly on recent post. Since that post I got upset took the gun off the market and swore on the classified board, with yet another board member agreeing with CMC after I exposed the entire build at my cost. My reply to all this is You must get different pricing from Luke and Boyds! BTW I have made my last post on Doug's today, I don't need to defend myself or actions. Your right I didn't need to swear, but when I'm accused of raping prices I am appalled. So if it's ok for one board member to make damming comments on this board to me, and then I get a pm to act professional. I guess I don't belong here, After fourteen years on this board, and everything I have given and sent FREE to members from the lower 48 to Canada, I guess that is not appreciated by the many I can take criticism but not disrespect. This isn't a poor me, nor do I want asked to stick around, I simply refuse to be disrespected.......... I am sure a moderator will move or lock this! regards jeff~
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2015 18:08:18 GMT -5
I think that's a little extreme given the circumstances Jeff. You poked at me and I just happened to poke harder I guess. No reason to walk away.
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Post by bigmoose on Mar 27, 2015 18:16:12 GMT -5
I enjoyed reading your post. The tone has changed since I first joined the board, however it remains a source of good info. No one should be disrespected, by what I used to call telephone tough guys I guess it may now be e-mail tough guys guys. Never let some one else win Cool off and come back to the board. A guy that can bust a goat like that has to be one of the good guys Marty
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Post by Jon on Mar 27, 2015 18:55:34 GMT -5
Well put. +1
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2015 19:05:46 GMT -5
I think that's a little extreme given the circumstances Jeff. You poked at me and I just happened to poke harder I guess. No reason to walk away. The way I see it.... It's none of your business what a man charges for his rifle..Seems to me that you (Cole) that you need to grow up a little...Running a lathe don't make you a man. Zen
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2015 19:09:47 GMT -5
Thanks zen but yet another opinion that I didn't ask for! I never said that running any piece of equipment makes me anything and I don't think my rifles are any great leap from what you put together yourself. What I don't do is sit around a take a beating while some Kentucky cock struts all over you guys telling you what junk your stuff is. His groupie chose to stick up for him and he got what he deserved. That scope wasn't included until people accused Jeff of screwing them to start with.
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Post by edge on Mar 27, 2015 19:14:15 GMT -5
No sense turning this thread into a peeing match too!
No one is running anyone out and no one is making anyone stay. Come, go, contribute or don't. The board will be here long after most of us are gone.
edge.
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Post by bigmoose on Mar 27, 2015 19:20:55 GMT -5
Edge, I know my days are numbered you don't need remind me {SMILE}
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Post by Richard on Mar 27, 2015 19:38:02 GMT -5
Come on BigMoose! A guy in your shape will be with us for a long time. Richard
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2015 19:51:22 GMT -5
Let's be honest, everyone knows that this Forum has taken a turn for the worse in the last year or so.
I post less stuff as well as others. It's plain to see.
One of my buddies hardly posts at all anymore on Doug's, because he's sick of all the BS on the board.
And he's built 6 guns or so in the last 2 years. Every time he posts, he says he gets cut down. It's a waste of time for him.
The moderators need to separate threads that have ANY reference to sales and put them in a Guns/Parts/ for sale forum if the fighting doesn't stop soon.
It's hard to tell if Doug's will get better, or if we'll all just get numb to the bickering like we do on other forums.
Doug's used to be different than the other forums that we flocked away from...now it's nearly the same.
Jeff, I'm not going to beg you to stay... but I'm going you ask to...
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Post by ping on Mar 27, 2015 19:54:01 GMT -5
SNIP.
Please read my above post for why your post was deleted!
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Post by southarkrob on Mar 27, 2015 20:07:07 GMT -5
I keep hearing how Dougs keeps going down hill.. I have been looking around here for several years..I am not as smart as some of you guys when it comes to these rifles.. but I gather a lot of knowledge from you guys. When I ask questions..I have received a lot of help. I saw the ad where it started going down hill. I have been on some forums where most of the members were less than polite.
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Post by wilmsmeyer on Mar 27, 2015 20:37:58 GMT -5
We have always had pretty loose regs here. Mostly because everyone behaves. There is nothing to be gained by one-upmanship here. This is a place to come and share knowledge and be polite.
I am not a perfect moderator. I am not a perfect person. AND, I know jack squat on the technical things regarding orifice diameters, gas blow by and all the other things being discussed as people advance the cause of SML. I kill everything I shoot at inside 200 yds with my old, stock, ugly Betty Savage. Good for all you guys that have taken the baton way down range. Seriously!
I will say this: This board is a friendly place. Maybe a heavy hand is needed to keep it that way. A heavy hand that I do not want to wield....but will do so if needed. Although I am not here to make friends, I have made many. Not here to make enemies either.
So...think before you post. Use your knowledge not to sell your product, not to diminish what other have done and not to kindle a brewing argument. Use your knowledge to be bigger than the slush that sometimes overwhelms a topic.
You guys that sell, build and offer services: This isn't a platform to earn your living or to pad your wallets. That's not to say that business will not come your way from your input, testing, skills and what not. It's not a place for you to sell your services by way of posting how good your systems are. If reports, testimonials and other things bring business your way? Good for you. But it is not a place to claim you are better than anyone else. Or a place to put someone else's ideas down.
This tit for tat between people, in open forum, is getting old. I have a job to do to keep this board at a place where it was intended to be. As well as I seem to think I know you all as people, you are still all an IP address with a voice. Keep your voice civil and it will always be heard. Continue to bash and make statements that aren't cohesive to constructive dialog and you will bear the consequences.
I am speaking to all members here and am not singling out anyone. I am not giving anyone a free pass for their long standing membership.
If you were me, what would you do? You don't have to answer, just think about it.
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