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Post by bvuksu on Mar 22, 2015 9:58:42 GMT -5
Hello all,
I have a remington 700ml ready to build. I have scope, base, rings and everything else in hand. Deer season is a long ways away, but there is nothing wrong with getting a little shooting in beforehand. I get stuck looking at stock options. My question is, What bell and carlson stocks would provide me with the least amount of work to drop a pac-nor barrel in? I was recently looking at a bell and carlson m40 1000 with an aluminum block, potentially glass bed as well. I have a savage .45 with a Boyd's thumbhole on it, but I am trying to prevent this gun from weighing as much as my savage.
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Post by 7mmfreak on Mar 22, 2015 11:45:02 GMT -5
The M40 would be my choice.
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Post by cowhunter on Mar 22, 2015 12:29:35 GMT -5
I just noticed the weight on the Boyd's stocks myself. I bought a Boyds Tacticiol laminated for a Rem700 and it weighed more than either of two natural wood (Hawaiian Koa) stocks built by Richard and Tom Post. The natural wood stocks also had aluminum bars built into the forearm and large sissy pads. Still, I really like the Boyd's stock. I think the Boyd's are laminated Maple, which should be very strong.
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Post by 7mmfreak on Mar 22, 2015 13:05:44 GMT -5
I think they are laminated birch. They are heavy but work pretty well in my experience.
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Post by muznut on Mar 22, 2015 13:32:36 GMT -5
The M40 would be my choice. What do you like better about the m40?
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Post by jeff on Mar 22, 2015 13:42:42 GMT -5
Just finishing up a SS Reminton/Brux with Lukes Plug in it on a Boyds Pro Varmint. With the Brux barrel having a stepped down contour instead of the #7 straight pacnor. It was quite a little more work to cut and bed the stock. Plus it has a plastic pillar that needs to be replaced. The barrel and components are being sent to Hankins to be bead blasted. When I get it put back together, I will post a pic or two of it in the for sale section. jeff~
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Post by 7mmfreak on Mar 22, 2015 13:48:49 GMT -5
Amongst the B&C line it has the highest, straightest comb, closed grip, and enough forend to accommodate an SML barrel plus ramrod if one so desires. When I buy a 700UM I'll buy the B&C variant. The laminate UM would be great if you intend to only shoot irons or a 40mm or less objective in low mounts. My rear aperture sight mounts to a rail so sits higher, like a scope. I also shoot a 50mm OBJ which requires the B&C UM (M40 stock). If you look at these SMLs we shoot, most have 5" of shank so you need a little higher mounts than other contours will let you get away with if you use large OBJ optics and most guys mount Hubble optics since everyone wants a "500 yard muzzleloader". A Boyds anything is a little low in the comb, except the Tacticool/Pro-Varmint, and even with it I need a little extra height for a 50mm or larger objective. A good cheek weld cannot be achieved with a Boyd's TH and large objectives. That cheek weld is not only critical to good position for accuracy/precision but provides an anchor which keeps you from becoming a bobble - head doll and getting bitten by the scope ocular housing. The Tacticool/Pro-Varmint is good but requires additional height and that scope is mounted as close to the barrel as possible. Even the A3 below it needs a KMW Loggerhead before it will work: Everyone's face is different and so is their version of good cheek weld but the M40 is the only B&C that comes close to right and still retains an real feel as a stock capable of positional shooting.
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Post by muznut on Mar 22, 2015 16:10:44 GMT -5
Good info,thank you.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2015 0:49:36 GMT -5
I have a B&C M40, two B&C tactical medalists and several Boyd's tacticool/pro varmint. I like them all but my personal favorite is the tacticool/pro varmint. Like stated, it's all personal preference.
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Post by bvuksu on Mar 23, 2015 15:00:26 GMT -5
I appreciate the replies. I will probably go with a B&C M40, just so it is in something different than my savage!
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