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Post by bowhunter1661 on Jan 30, 2015 16:41:56 GMT -5
Well now that deer season is over here I am finally going to get out Tomorrow morning to do a little long range shooting. Conditions should be perfect, 40 degrees, 5 mph SW winds. This is my first time shooting at this distance. I have high hopes for the rifle. During late muzzleloader I harvested a doe at 370 yards and POI was exactly the same as POA. Any tips or advice for long range shooting? Good or bad I'll be sure to update! I'm pretty excited! Gun- 26" REMPAC 70 gr IMR4198 275 MH smooth formed B&C varmint/hunter full bed block Vortex viper 6.5-20x44
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Post by rangeball on Jan 30, 2015 16:54:49 GMT -5
Aim small, miss small Best of luck. Looking forward to the report.
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Post by hawghunter on Jan 30, 2015 17:04:47 GMT -5
Are you using a 20 moa scope mount?
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Post by bowhunter1661 on Jan 30, 2015 17:09:14 GMT -5
Are you using a 20 moa scope mount? Yessir I am. It is a warne tactical.
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Post by Richard on Jan 30, 2015 17:12:25 GMT -5
I am envious! Good shooting! Richard
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Post by bowhunter1661 on Jan 30, 2015 17:13:55 GMT -5
Aim small, miss small Best of luck. Looking forward to the report. Great advice. I am also into target competition archery. Anytime I am shooting and see someone struggling at the range, I just tell them. Stop shooting at the 4" circle, instead shoot at a 1" circle or less. That always tightens their groups significantly.
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Post by bowhunter1661 on Jan 30, 2015 17:16:42 GMT -5
Here is where I plan to setup. SW wind will be blowing directly at my back. The mark to the left is a high spot it the field.
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Post by mrbuck on Jan 30, 2015 20:22:26 GMT -5
Killing a doe at 370 yards is outstanding . Good luck shooting targets at 600 yards . Chris
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2015 23:33:37 GMT -5
One of the things that I've noticed is how much a wind from behind can effect you groups when the terrain ramps up towards the target. As the wind follows the terrain down a hill and then up, the wind pushes my bullets up or down in a vertical string. On my range the last 250 yards really ramps up ~35' or so, and in a heavier tailwind I can watch the wind blow the grass as the wind runs up the hill. Well as the wind is ramping up the hill it is pushing my bullets up as well. Vertical stringing of the group is the result.
Good luck. Looking forward to your results!
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Post by quillen52 on Jan 31, 2015 8:36:49 GMT -5
Interesting observation Earnhardt. Our rifle range ramps up significantly for 200 yds.. I will have to keep your advice in mind when I shoot again!
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Post by bowhunter1661 on Jan 31, 2015 9:35:16 GMT -5
That is very interesting. Great observation. I am hoping the light winds today won't effect it too much. Also the location of the target is flat for 500 yds. Getting ready to head out the door, had to scent free shower because after shooting I am pulling a few stands.
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Post by bowhunter1661 on Jan 31, 2015 13:19:52 GMT -5
Well fellas, I am not going to say it was the "best I could do". But I would say for never shooting this far I did fair? I started with just a base elevation adjustment from JDM BALLISTICS. I waisted 4 shots trying to figure out where I was hitting. After those shots I decided I was hitting high left and that the wind was having a larger effect than I originally estimated. The starter elevation adjustment was 16.75 MOA. After I hit the very top of the target I realized just how high I was hitting. Therefore I moved it down to 15.5 MOA. Figuring 6" should be fairly close. Next I adjusted 2 MOA Right. The 5 shots on the bottom were windage adjustments. Far left is the first 1.0 MOA, far right two were 2.0, and the two in the center were 1.5 MOA right. So I suppose if you look at it as the grouping I did as I adjusted it was pretty good. Also I was basically shooting off of a hunting type setup, and 20X in my opinion is not enough for these long shots. It also didn't help I was shooting at a tiny target for 600 yds.. Lol Overall I am pleased. If I can get this completely dialed in I think would feel totally comfortable shooting a deer at that distance. Just need a little more range time!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2015 14:29:47 GMT -5
Great report! After 400 yards or so, the wind really starts to amplify bullet movement for me it seems. What velocity for the bullet? If you were shooting off of a bench, your groups would tighten up a little too. If the bottom 5 bullets had no vertical adjustment on the scope turrets that's great news. Only 3" vertical spread at 600 yards. 1/2 MOA is great at that distance for vertical spread. Try shooting with absolutely no wind and a bench, and you are going to be amazed at how well your gun shoots at 600 yards!
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Post by bowhunter1661 on Jan 31, 2015 14:46:12 GMT -5
Thank you Earnhardt, I actually have no Idea of velocity. I do not have access to an chrono around here. However, based off of everyone's load data on the site I figured I am right around 2750 FPS. If I didn't run out of powder and my shoulder wasnt starting to hurt I would have shot a bit more.. We have 10" of snow coming tonight so I don't think ill get out for awhile. Overall I am happy, and rather impressed. I do need to shoot this thing off a bench to show it's true potential. When I was aiming the cross hairs were floating all around the target. Mainly my heartbeat is what effects this field pod. I am still kind of awe struck at what these guns can do. I am completely hooked.
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Post by bowhunter1661 on Jan 31, 2015 14:49:27 GMT -5
Here is my data I calculated.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2015 15:37:50 GMT -5
OK, you say your cross hairs were all over the target?...when you shot this group?... Uhh... your groups are going to be awesome when you shoot off of a solid bench and with no wind! Congrats!
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Post by bowhunter1661 on Jan 31, 2015 15:56:49 GMT -5
Lol yes, possibly I should slightly rephrase. It was floating around half the target approximately I would say. Either way, it was a challenge!
I actually have never even shot a rifle until I built this. Only about 20 rounds through my slug gun between sighting in and hunting, then my TC impact that I only shot all of about 30 times. I love the idea of shooting at long range. Some think it is easy (at one point me), but it is far more technical than 100 yard bench shooting.
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Post by bowhunter1661 on Jan 31, 2015 17:13:41 GMT -5
I'm thinking the next time I go out I am going to give this a shot! just for the fun of it. I will bring a large 4x4 sheet of plywood or something to use as my spotter. Then I can back my truck into the field and lay in the bed with my bipod and sand bag. I believe with practice these guns are capable of 1000 yds. I would say Earnhardts guns are a little more adapted, but, still will be fun!
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Post by 7mmfreak on Jan 31, 2015 19:44:07 GMT -5
I believe with practice these guns are capable of 1000 yds. On PAPER or STEEL, sure. Good shooting today. With practice and a better rest you'll be really impressive.
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Post by Richard on Jan 31, 2015 20:32:01 GMT -5
What kind of weight do you have on your trigger? When shooting long and very long distances, a good trigger is worth its weight in gold.............................Think JEWEL! Also, adjust your target for the distance and scoope you are shooting. Your 20X scope is just fine...........depending on the reticule. As long as you are able to center the reticule on the target with out covering up the aiming point you will be fine. I was only using 24X with a 1/8" dot when I shot the 1K IBS bench rest record. (1.564" for 5 shots) I used to shoot a lot of short range Hunter class benchrest at 100 and 200 yards with a 6X scope and the bull was such that I could center the dot in the middle of the white and win my share of the matches. Sounds like you are having fun and good luck. Solid bench and quality rest along with an accurate rifle, good scope and good trigger. Richard
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Post by bowhunter1661 on Jan 31, 2015 21:09:55 GMT -5
Currently the gun has a factory trigger set at 2.5 lb. I may go ahead and place an order on a better unit. I can feel a bit of creep. I don't really care for it. Also I may invest in a quality rest.
As far as shooting at these distances I have told myself that 600 yds is my maximum yardage. Beyond that is purely for fun. I think I am also going to invest in a muscle brake as well. I can't fling more than 10 shots without a sore shoulder. After it starts to hurt, there goes the flinching.
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Post by kash913 on Feb 1, 2015 13:11:25 GMT -5
That's great shooting the Caldwell bipod is not that steady I have one. I'm surprised you hit the target so many time. Great shooting
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Post by cr500afx on Feb 1, 2015 15:42:49 GMT -5
I made a kill shot with this Caldwell Magnum Deadshot Fieldpod in November at 287 yards easily. It is very stable for what it is. The legs actually have spikes that push into the ground like a surveyor tripod. Pictured, it is in it's lowest position.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2015 18:25:44 GMT -5
Cr500 you have the Cadillac version. I was not aware there were different models. Mine can be adjusted for shots sitting on the ground to sitting in a chair. Mine has no spikes either.
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Post by bowhunter1661 on Feb 1, 2015 22:26:00 GMT -5
As mentioned prior I killed a doe at 370 yds with the field pod. At that distance it was great. Felt like a true bench rest. But the longer you stretch the shot our there the more it moves.
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Post by cr500afx on Feb 2, 2015 0:08:11 GMT -5
As mentioned prior I killed a doe at 370 yds with the field pod. At that distance it was great. Felt like a true bench rest. But the longer you stretch the shot our there the more it moves. I am not advocating the Magnum version to be the best for long range but in a pinch it works very well. The above pic does not do it justice. It is twice as big, twice as heavy and twice as steady compared to the standard model. Every long range shooter that has seen it in person has purchased one too. I am planning to join another local range that has a 1000 yard competition range, with shooting berms at 1000, 600, 300, and 200. I am on the fence about joining because you can't shoot 400 and 500 yards, which are more important to me than the longer ranges. If I shoot on the competition range, there are no benches so I will have to use the Magnum fieldpod.
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Post by bowhunter1661 on Feb 2, 2015 7:18:00 GMT -5
Absolutely the magnum is better suited for the longer shots. Sorry if that came off a little strong. I didn't mean it that way. It also didn't help me any that the chair I used was too tall. When I would aim I had to hold my hell off the ground and rest my right elbow on it. Not exactly the best rest but I made It work. Next time I am going to just drive my truck in the field and lay in the bed with my bipod. That is after this snow is gone. 16" thus far with 2-3" expected this morning.
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