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Post by Richard on Nov 10, 2014 19:11:17 GMT -5
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Post by a1smokepole on Nov 10, 2014 19:24:35 GMT -5
That one was a wakeup for sure.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2014 20:16:26 GMT -5
~ 170,000 psi on Quickloads
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Post by deadeye on Nov 10, 2014 20:27:05 GMT -5
yep~ even a witness mark would not have prevented this if there was such a thing in cf
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Post by muzzleman 54 on Nov 10, 2014 21:18:56 GMT -5
that just goes to show you have to pay attention when handloading. I caught myself a few times over the last 40 years of loading. PLEASE BE CAREFUL !!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2014 9:18:04 GMT -5
DAM.....Be careful folks...
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Post by 1coyotemaster on Nov 11, 2014 20:49:55 GMT -5
Thanks Richard--that's a good reminder for all of us. It took guts for that guy to admit his mistake and let others learn from it.
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Post by rossman40 on Nov 12, 2014 9:59:23 GMT -5
What is interesting is the barrel didn't fail, it was a case failure. When that happens it is in the weakest part of the action and even those vents they add are not always enough to save you.
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Post by deadeye on Nov 12, 2014 19:55:39 GMT -5
What is interesting is the barrel didn't fail, it was a case failure. When that happens it is in the weakest part of the action and even those vents they add are not always enough to save you. ken~great call...I missed that until your post. |
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Post by Richard on Nov 12, 2014 21:19:56 GMT -5
I would hardly call that "case failure?" The chamber is in the barrel itself and that did not come apart. The fact that the head of the case came off is just collateral damage due to the pressure. Something had to give. I would be willing to bet that had that action been a solid benchrest type action with no opening for a mag well and a lot of metal above the loading port that the damage would have been less severe.
Richard
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Post by rossman40 on Nov 14, 2014 3:36:23 GMT -5
The case failed to hold the pressure (even though beyond design limits) so yes it is a case failure. The pressure started to split the action right behind the barrel tenon where it is only 1/8" thick. If it doesn't go to the mag well it will continue to split the action at another weak point, right down the bolt raceways (as seen in picture). Single shot or repeater wouln't make a difference, diameter of the action yes. Both Remy and Savage have hardened actions, much harder then the barrels (you have drilled and tapped them), therefore more brittle. You ever wonder why the 700ML has such a long barrel tenon and the end of the bolt isn't enclosed in the action or barrel? I think it is mentioned in Remingtons patent for the 700ML. Just a little bit of design people do not see Here is another one, Savage model 12 in .223,  |
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Post by 10ga on Dec 6, 2014 9:32:52 GMT -5
I have been present at several catastrophic gun failures, 1 ML and that was Black powder, 1 revolver and 2 bolt guns. Not the kind of thing you want to be close to when it happens. Remember, always safety first. those failures don't count the shotgun barrels I've seen "banana" peeled from an obstruction. 10
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