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Post by esshup on May 18, 2015 22:35:21 GMT -5
Forger it dnr has canned the use of 243 cfr or bigger for deer hunting in IND. SUCKS !! Only if you use it in a rifle. It's still legal to use in a pistol.
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Post by ported45 on May 20, 2015 9:00:21 GMT -5
Forger it dnr has canned the use of 243 cfr or bigger for deer hunting in IND. SUCKS !! That's alright, it will probably be back again next year with some refinements that will give enough people the warm fuzzies that it will pass and we will have yet again the continually morphing deer equipment laws for Indiana. If they do pass it, that will be fine with me (matter of fact I have already replaced a .308 that I sold to a cousin for use in New York). No skin off my teeth either way. What we have now is really plenty. You could get a .357 Mag, Maxie, or .44 Mag (or a number of factory cartridges) and not have to do a thing and go hunt, get a .35 Remington and just trim the brass below 1.8", or have a custom rifle built from $700 for a .358 Hoosier minor customization (or $450-$500 to rebarrel a rifle you already have) to who knows what $ for a full custom. There are already lots of options. All you have to do is pay to play whatever game you want. My new options for last year were the trimmed-brass .35 Remington and a .45 smokeless conversion. I went two for two with the smokeless .45 a couple minutes apart, but never got to fire the .35 Rem in the woods. BTW- a .243 would be a perfect donor for the .358 Hoosier rebarrel as the .358 Hoosier uses the same bolt head. .358 Hoosier is basically a "short" .358 Winchester made from cut down .358 Win or .308 Win brass and then just sized in the Hoosier dies.
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Post by esshup on May 21, 2015 17:45:53 GMT -5
Forger it dnr has canned the use of 243 cfr or bigger for deer hunting in IND. SUCKS !! That's alright, it will probably be back again next year with some refinements that will give enough people the warm fuzzies that it will pass and we will have yet again the continually morphing deer equipment laws for Indiana. If they do pass it, that will be fine with me (matter of fact I have already replaced a .308 that I sold to a cousin for use in New York). No skin off my teeth either way. What we have now is really plenty. You could get a .357 Mag, Maxie, or .44 Mag (or a number of factory cartridges) and not have to do a thing and go hunt, get a .35 Remington and just trim the brass below 1.8", or have a custom rifle built from $700 for a .358 Hoosier minor customization (or $450-$500 to rebarrel a rifle you already have) to who knows what $ for a full custom. There are already lots of options. All you have to do is pay to play whatever game you want. My new options for last year were the trimmed-brass .35 Remington and a .45 smokeless conversion. I went two for two with the smokeless .45 a couple minutes apart, but never got to fire the .35 Rem in the woods. BTW- a .243 would be a perfect donor for the .358 Hoosier rebarrel as the .358 Hoosier uses the same bolt head. .358 Hoosier is basically a "short" .358 Winchester made from cut down .358 Win or .308 Win brass and then just sized in the Hoosier dies. A .243 Savage would be perfect then. A vise, barrel nut wrench, headspace gauge and you're about ready to go swap barrels back and forth between the .243 and the Hoosier. Here's another head scratcher for you. It's legal to have a .243 and a .358 Hoosier in the deer stand with you, both loaded. The .243 is legal for 'yotes, just don't shoot a deer with it!
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Post by ourway77 on Jul 7, 2016 11:41:15 GMT -5
I am 79 and have hunted since I was 11 I have hunted with a 243 almost all my life I have killed a load of deer out too 500 yards. Ever since reloading I have used the Sierra 100 grain spritzer pushed by the max IMR-4831 load. I used my Remington 700 BDL recently accuracy fell off so I had it re-barreled. I like the 243 as it won't beat you up and is all one needs for Deer
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2016 17:38:09 GMT -5
when did this happen? last I heard the bill was passed in March and the governor signed it going into effect the 30th of June 2016.I spoke to a gun dealer this past Thursday and everything was still a go.Will it be in the hunting and trapping booklet coming out this month?
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Post by ported45 on Jul 11, 2016 4:35:32 GMT -5
when did this happen? last I heard the bill was passed in March and the governor signed it going into effect the 30th of June 2016.I spoke to a gun dealer this past Thursday and everything was still a go.Will it be in the hunting and trapping booklet coming out this month? Check the posting dates, all but one was from last year.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2016 14:37:16 GMT -5
Thank you.My mistake.I rechecked and it was for last year.Sorry.
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Post by esshup on Jul 24, 2016 12:32:34 GMT -5
For the next 5 years starting with 2016, any rifle (minimum case lengths apply) that shoots a .243 or .308 bullet will be legal for use on private property during the "firearm" deer season. www.in.gov/activecalendar_dnr/EventList.aspx?view=EventDetails&eventidn=8974&information_id=18905&type=&syndicate=syndicateThe Department of Natural Resources has received numerous questions regarding recent legislation that legalizes certain rifles for deer hunting beginning later this year. Most questions have to do with calibers and cartridges allowed under the new law. House Enrolled Act 1231 that was passed earlier this year by the Indiana General Assembly allows some additional rifle cartridges to be used only on private land during the firearms season. The new legal cartridges include, but are not limited to, the .243 Winchester, .30-30 Winchester, .300 AAC Blackout, and .30-06 Springfield. Additional requirements are: • The rifle must have a barrel length of at least 16 inches • The rifle cartridges must have a cartridge case length of least 1.16 inches • The rifle cartridge must fire a bullet with a diameter that is o .243 inches (or 6 mm); or o .308 inches (or 7.62 mm) • No cartridges with a bullet diameter between .243 and .308 are legal (such as the .270 Winchester) • A hunter may not possess more than 10 such cartridges while in the field Rifles with pistol cartridges that have been allowed in previous years may still be used to hunt deer on both private and public land. Additional cartridges that are legal under HEA 1231 include, but are not limited to, the following: • 6mm-06 • 6mm BR Remington • 6mm PPC • 6mm Remington • .240 Weatherby • .243 Winchester • .243 Winchester Super Short Magnum • .30 Carbine • .30 Herrett • .30 Remington AR • .30-06 Springfield • .30-30 Winchester • .30-40 Krag • .300 AAC Blackout (.300 Whisper) • .300 H&H Magnum • .300 Remington Short Action Ultra Magnum • .300 Savage • .300 Weatherby Magnum • .300 Winchester Magnum • .300 Winchester Short Magnum • .300 Remington Ultra Magnum • .308 Marlin • .308 Winchester • 7.62x39mm • 7.62x54mmR There are other cartridges that meet the law’s specifications, and there are others that do not. A partial list of cartridges that are not allowed under HEA 1231 includes the .270 Winchester, .38-55 Winchester, .444 Marlin, and .45-70 Government. HEA 1231 is scheduled to expire after the 2020 deer season, at which time the DNR will submit an impact report to the Governor and the General Assembly
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Post by wilmsmeyer on Jul 24, 2016 19:07:11 GMT -5
The Good, the bad and the ugly:
The good: Lots of great cartridges to choose from The Bad: Lot's of good cartridges are left out. The ugly: A .30 carbine? Really?
The common sense has been left out again in determining a legal firearm. Nothing new. In NYS any centerfire pistol is legal. Any centerfire rifle is legal. Grab your .22 hornet and your .38 spcl. Or your .30 Carbine.
Indiana says a 300 Win Mag is OK but a 7mm Mag is not? What is the logic and who decides? Dumb people decide. Very dumb people.
At least you have the "good"
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Post by 7mmfreak on Jul 24, 2016 19:50:54 GMT -5
Yep, true statement. Some laws are beyond asinine. Muzzleloader laws are largely antiquated. The places that don't allow CF are ridiculous also. They are even more ridiculous if they don't allow CF but allow SML since some SML are the equivalent of a .300WM when we are talking basic trajectory. And a .30 Carbine is ridiculously under power. Makes no sense.
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Post by esshup on Jul 25, 2016 13:12:41 GMT -5
That is what happens when the state legislature gets involved and not the DNR. Long story short. DNR elected not to open up CF rifles for deer even though the exact same cartridges in pistol platform are legal to use, as is any CF rifle for varmints. So, the state legislature got involved somehow and listed some cartridges that weren't actually cartridges. DNR said fine, if you don't know what you are talking about then any .243 or .30 cal rifle will be legal. To save a lot of typing, this thread here has all the info and links to the actual initial wording and all the revisions. hunt-indiana.com/thread/55500/rifles-end-play
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