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Post by bestill on Oct 10, 2014 22:01:01 GMT -5
during fall nmlra shoot sold my knight douglas custom my brother was shooting. i have a knight brux custom that jeff hankins helped get together and its a shooter. and have ordered another brux to build another. so to get my brother a gun up and running deciced to build another knight douglas which shoot very well. as build progressed over last few weeks decided to trick this one out a little and make it stand out . ive been involved in several street rod builds so ill call it a trailer queen but were gonna shoot it alot. specs. found a discontinued long range hunter stock, mountaineer action and gear, douglas 26" xx 1-20 twist .451/.458 barrel , using a custom breech plug with bare 209 primer, with .030 bushing . flame channel .144 x.600 , talley bases . pillar installed and bedded action and floated barrel. will get topped in morning with talley rings and bushnell tactical elite 4.5x30x56 and off to range to test. my plans are to shoot 95gr by weight blackhorn 209 with .060 veggie wad and full form 310 apb.    |
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Post by jims on Oct 11, 2014 3:25:36 GMT -5
Very nice.
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Post by 7mmfreak on Oct 11, 2014 5:15:43 GMT -5
I'm sure that will be a winner too. Nice gun.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2014 7:25:01 GMT -5
sweet ride!
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Post by rambler on Oct 12, 2014 7:47:38 GMT -5
Love the gun...loose the stove  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2014 10:50:21 GMT -5
Beautiful Gun....have all the other shooters look at it before they shoot for the temporary blindness tactic,lol.....
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Post by bestill on Oct 12, 2014 12:50:49 GMT -5
Exactly little more polish . Dont you like my photo booth |
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Post by rambler on Oct 12, 2014 13:17:05 GMT -5
Exactly little more polish . Dont you like my photo booth we have one of those stove tops.... wife loves it, I'm a gas guy. it is shiny. PIA to clean. |
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Post by Jon on Oct 12, 2014 13:55:44 GMT -5
Rambler. +1 on the stove top I like gas but no wife. Nice gun and good results. As soon as I get a few more answers I'm going to get either a Krieger or Brux Barrel on order. I want to try a cut rifled barrel in stead of button.
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Post by bestill on Oct 12, 2014 14:11:43 GMT -5
Krieger and brux are no doubt top notch and very accurate.
This last Douglas barrel is same as last 4 ive received .451 land to land and consistent muzzle to plug . Nice part is parker bullets load and shootwith no sizing and moa accurate. Plus easy to get quick
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Post by rambler on Oct 12, 2014 14:46:12 GMT -5
Krieger and brux are no doubt top notch and very accurate. This last Douglas barrel is same as last 4 ive received .451 land to land and consistent muzzle to plug . Nice part is parker bullets load and shootwith no sizing and moa accurate. Plus easy to get quick I put just a very very slight sizing on the parkers thru my Douglas. The barrel loves 'em. |
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Post by bestill on Oct 12, 2014 14:52:05 GMT -5
Rite on
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Post by rambler on Oct 12, 2014 14:55:35 GMT -5
The barrel likes Hornady 250FTX's also. How bout yours?? |
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Post by Jon on Oct 12, 2014 17:25:55 GMT -5
Please don't take me wrong I'm not faulting any barrel. You have proven that the barrels you use are top quality. You have the advantage of being a great trigger man. Hopefully if I get this gun I'm hoping to build finished I'll be able to find someone of your caliber to really give it a chance to show it's stuff.
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Post by bestill on Oct 12, 2014 18:54:30 GMT -5
I appreciate the compliment but i dont compare to some with true god given talent. I spent alot of time at range shooting and working techniques. I view it like archery its all about form .
You did open about quality barrels and imo cut rifle barrels are worth it but few trigger guys can make them produce up to their capabilities. So most button guns will shoot well for most.
Imo the key to accuracy is rite bullet and charge for each given barrel. Yesterday testing new gun i changed powder charge up 5 grain and shot 3" group went back down 5 grain and shot1" group then went back up 2 grain and 3 shots same hole. Wild thing was these 3 loads had 100 fps avg change
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Post by jims on Oct 12, 2014 19:02:05 GMT -5
That looks like a "hot" combination.
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Post by rssc on Oct 13, 2014 21:43:58 GMT -5
Why use a Knight vs a Rem 700 action? Knight does not make an action, so I assume you are cutting off a used Knight just ahead of the breech plug? Not only a lot of extra work, but seems like a HUGE liability issue for you if you're selling these.
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Post by bestill on Oct 13, 2014 22:08:43 GMT -5
Why use a Knight vs a Rem 700 action? Knight does not make an action, so I assume you are cutting off a used Knight just ahead of the breech plug? Not only a lot of extra work, but seems like a HUGE liability issue for you if you're selling these. Thanks for your concern . Why a knight because i like them and building what manufacture should be making. Yes your rite alot of work and i enjoy every minute of it and a challenge to make each one better. Im confident in my build and integrity. Im not sure why but seems you have a issue with my custom knight you made a thread with a 1-20 twist for sale and used a comparison of cost between it and my build with no ideal of what my build cost. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2014 22:31:34 GMT -5
That's a sharp rig bestill and all your creations
shoot very impressive at all ranges.
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Post by GMB54-120 on Oct 14, 2014 9:07:44 GMT -5
Bestill since you were at the last match at Friendship and shot in the match, what barrel were the top 5 or even top 10 places using? I heard a Knight with a GM barrel won and i know your brother did very well. I know you have done very well also in the inline matches.
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Post by bestill on Oct 14, 2014 9:29:19 GMT -5
Glad you asked that question i dont have facts but i would be close by saying7 of top ten using knight and 2 of 7 were custom barreled and of other3 2 were ultimate and balance was encore or austin halleck
Other fact when started competing inline match with a knight custom there were only couple knights now they several . And the record score for aggregate was set with a knight Douglas and should have been broken but some guy decided to change bullets week before fall match always learning
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Post by GMB54-120 on Oct 14, 2014 9:45:22 GMT -5
Thank you. I enjoy both my Knight 45s and my Pacnor45 but they are not in the same league IMO. Pacnors are held to much better tolerances and so are many other custom barrels. I love my Douglas barrel on my NULA too. Butter smooth and wonderfully accurate. I would be quite happy with a Douglas conversion on my DISC Original 45. Melvin wont make the NULAs in 45cal anymore.  I would certainly consider the Lothar Walther barrel on the Ultimates as a custom barrel. Its hardly a common place offering although Knight did use them for a short time. Knight's team won roughly 6 years in a row with a 45cal 1-18. At least one year they shot sabots with bullets from Precision Rifle. That was years ago though and the Manufactures Match is long gone after White cleaned house with a smaller caliber "Varminter" rifle. |
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Post by bestshot on Oct 15, 2014 16:37:56 GMT -5
the Record you are talking about at Friendship is for Spring shoot. The National Championship is shot in September. There are two sets of Records. The winning rifle was shooting a Knight with a 1-18 Green Mountain Barrel with 80 grns. 2ff Swiss Black Powder.
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Post by bestill on Oct 15, 2014 16:56:55 GMT -5
Yes i understand that completely!!
And spring shoot was debute of inline hunter match and I recorded a score of 243 and brother shot242 with same gun. Which set aggregate match record at 243 . And yes i know what won fall match and know him personally he lives 3 miles from my house. Also i know he shot a awesome match and scored 240 . So i believe my statement was dead on. 243 is nmlra inline aggregate match record spring/fall or otherwise. I get the feeling some fellas dont like my custom knight competing in this class but it meets all class criteria and that's why its a open class . Just my observations. But it also motivates me to do better which is cool. Thanks and god bless.
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Post by GMB54-120 on Oct 15, 2014 17:25:45 GMT -5
Someone joined just to comment on your thread...You should feel honored.  |
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Post by bestshot on Oct 15, 2014 18:49:40 GMT -5
not trying to be smug , and denying your record which is very good shooting. They just keep 2 sets of Records at Friendship. If not welcome on this sight to comment just say so. not trying to down anybody.
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Post by squeeze on Oct 15, 2014 19:13:28 GMT -5
A real Beauty! I totally get 'why a Knight' as a canvas for your artistry. I love my knights also. And some fine shooting, too! My hats off to you
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Post by bestill on Oct 15, 2014 21:15:29 GMT -5
not trying to be smug , and denying your record which is very good shooting. They just keep 2 sets of Records at Friendship. If not welcome on this sight to comment just say so. not trying to down anybody. Honored to have new thoughts and input on board. Just felt lately had a target on my back. But all good here can't wait to compete with you again hope to see ya 25th next shoot |
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