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Post by slugger on Sept 23, 2014 14:37:46 GMT -5
What I'm thinking 'bout is this: Our duck boat doesn't need to be in the water to launch, but it's several hundred pounds, 16 1/2 foot long and NOT man handable. There is a lot of spots we can run the boat just can't get it in to the water easily. But if we could "Spin" the boat on the trailer and push her off front first we would have a better chance of getting in to ditches and cannels. We have an electric winch and can pull it in but you want the head in first not the square heave motor end. I'm thinking some Kinda screw jack, scissor lift thing on the trailer. Use a small 12 volt motor to run the screw and lift like a dump truck thing with a lazy Suzan spinner. It would have to lift from all four corners to balance and hold together on very uneven ground. It would also need to lift about two feet to clear the side boards on the trailer, then go back down to let it roll off the rollers. We would make some kind of roller extensions to act like a long ramp. Then I'm thinking the same motor could used to do some kind of telescoping trailer tongue and get another 6/8 feet towards the water. Labor is not an issue but cost is, that's why I think hydraulic is out. You have to put the boat on forward to pull it, it would have to be towed with it on forward... Remember NO reverse on a duck boat. Think I'm looking in the right direction ?
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Post by ET on Sept 23, 2014 19:47:16 GMT -5
Slugger
Interesting concept for boat launching. You would need a strategically placed lift cradle to raise the boat balanced and spin around ensuring the propeller shaft doesn’t hit anything. Long ramp extension for sure to again protect the propeller shaft when coming off the trailer. Not sure with this load shifting to cradle for turning how the ball and tongue connection will react as it’s designed more for weight down. Two feet will drastically alter center of gravity for roll angle if trailer is not sitting level.
From my perspective unless you have a low and wide custom riding trailer to begin with I would be leery attempting such a project. But that's just me.
Ed
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Post by slugger on Sept 23, 2014 20:23:10 GMT -5
How about A drive through trailer like a lowboy. Lay the winch/stop post over on its side. Pull a 20' tongue from under the Back of the trailer, hook to that with the truck hitch. Then lay 10 feet of rollers down the normal tongue make the trailer tip from the back push it in and roll it off. You'd get 40 feet farther to the water and going in head first.
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Post by deadeer on Sept 24, 2014 7:44:18 GMT -5
First thought to mind for the tongue could be telescoping. Sort of like a slide in hitch with pins. You could sleeve 2"X2"X1/4" box steel into 2 1/2" and make it the full length of the trailer. Use a jack stand or chock the wheels to pull or extend the tongue out to launch the boat? Maybe?
Jay
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Post by slugger on Sept 24, 2014 13:46:30 GMT -5
YUP ! That's what I'm thinking. AND with the trailer turned around the wheels will be closer to the "Now" front . Making it easer to be pushed out in to the mud farther before it Mired down.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2014 14:00:51 GMT -5
How about A drive through trailer like a lowboy. Lay the winch/stop post over on its side. Pull a 20' tongue from under the Back of the trailer, hook to that with the truck hitch. Then lay 10 feet of rollers down the normal tongue make the trailer tip from the back push it in and roll it off. You'd get 40 feet farther to the water and going in head first.
I was thinking more this way....could you weld/u-bolt a 2" square pipe to the cross member in the Y of the trailer....It could accept a small square pipe with spindles and tires that could be pinned in....then when you hook the truck up to the back of the trailer you would lift the rear tires off the ground and be able to launch bow first.....Does that make sense..?
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Post by slugger on Sept 26, 2014 17:04:15 GMT -5
I'm going to go with a drive through trailer with TWO tongues One fixed for towing ,in the front of the trailer ,boat pointing toward the truck, and a telescoping one in the back. The back one will ONLY be used to push and maneuver the trailer and boat in to the ditch or canal NO lights needed. The winch post will hinge to the side to let the boat slide down a ATV ramp on the fixed tongue with Nylon slides. The back tongue will telescope out to 15' and the trailer will tip with the help of a integrated screw jack. That should give me around 30 feet of trailer. I will use another section of ATV ramp with slides and lay it on the ground if I need some more. I'm going to paint the bottom of the boat with Gader glide to help move things along. When we retrieve the boat we will simply hook a cable to the trailer from the boat and use the truck to drag it back up to the parking lot ,then unhook the telescoping tongue fold it back up ,hook to the Normal tongue . Winch the boat up on to the trailer pointing the normal way and tow it home as normal. No muss no fuss. When your in the cold in the wee hours of the morning trying to beet the sun it all has to be easy ,simple and bullet proof
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Post by ourway77 on Oct 2, 2014 6:10:35 GMT -5
Tilt trailer? Never got my hubs wet. launched in 6"-12"s of water, 16' smoker craft, I use to launch on lakes that had no boat ramps. Good Luck.Lou
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Post by slugger on Oct 2, 2014 7:25:26 GMT -5
Tilt trailer? Never got my hubs wet. launched in 6"-12"s of water, 16' smoker craft, I use to launch on lakes that had no boat ramps. Good Luck.Lou Yes but you have to be able to get to the water! I'm talking 'bout when your 20 feet or farther from the water.
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