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Post by hankinsrfls on Sept 11, 2014 11:43:05 GMT -5
Guys.
I need to find a good scope for my 416. I have a Sightron 8-32X56 on it now with a 1/8 dot reticle and love it,, only problem is you can not see the dot in low light. So it will not do me any good hunting over fields when 90% of my shots will be at last light....
My requirements for the new scope is:
1. Hi magnification.
2. 30 mm tube or bigger.
3. Lighted reticle.
4. Second focal plane.
I ordered a Vortex Viper PST in 6-24X50 but it is backordered for 6-8 weeks. Can't wait that long.
I looked at the Burris XTRll but it is only available in FFP and I don't like a FFP scope.
Do you guys have any other options I could look at. I would like to keep the cost under $1200.00 So nightforce is out.
Thanks for your ideas. Jeff.
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Post by dannoboone on Sept 11, 2014 11:50:08 GMT -5
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Post by hankinsrfls on Sept 11, 2014 12:00:39 GMT -5
I will keep my order in place and stock the scope when it gets here. I order direct from Vortex and I try to keep several here at all times so one more will not hurt me. But thanks for looking it up at midway..... Jeff.
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Post by fishhawk on Sept 11, 2014 12:29:21 GMT -5
Jeff, I can loan you a FFP version of the Vortex you want until your other scope comes in. I will also look at what I have at home with lit reticles.
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Post by Dave W on Sept 11, 2014 12:30:47 GMT -5
Weaver Super Slam Euro 4-20, but it is FFP.
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Post by jsthntn247 on Sept 11, 2014 13:50:15 GMT -5
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Post by rangeball on Sept 11, 2014 14:09:58 GMT -5
What about one of those add on reticle illuminators? I've never used one and have no idea on the quality but this seems to be what they were made for.
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Post by hankinsrfls on Sept 11, 2014 14:12:44 GMT -5
That is a good choice... Wish it was available in 8-32X56.... Jeff. |
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Post by hankinsrfls on Sept 11, 2014 14:13:11 GMT -5
What about one of those add on reticle illuminators? I've never used one and have no idea on the quality but this seems to be what they were made for. Never seen one. Jeff. |
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Post by hankinsrfls on Sept 11, 2014 14:15:37 GMT -5
Jeff, I can loan you a FFP version of the Vortex you want until your other scope comes in. I will also look at what I have at home with lit reticles. I appreciate the offer, really do... But I would rather get one, so I don't have to take it back off..... Thanks again..... Jeff. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 14:22:40 GMT -5
NightForce SHV 5-20X56 ILL reticle
2nd focal plane
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Post by rangeball on Sept 11, 2014 14:40:28 GMT -5
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Post by rangeball on Sept 11, 2014 14:46:28 GMT -5
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Post by rossman40 on Sept 11, 2014 16:17:40 GMT -5
The Weaver Classic Extremes that Natchez sells are a lot of bang for the buck and are available in 6-24 and 8-32X50. They pretty much meet your specs for $350.
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Post by 03mossy on Sept 11, 2014 16:42:51 GMT -5
The Weaver Classic Extremes that Natchez sells are a lot of bang for the buck and are available in 6-24 and 8-32X50. They pretty much meet your specs for $350. What does the glass in those compare to? |
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Post by hankinsrfls on Sept 11, 2014 16:50:03 GMT -5
The Weaver Classic Extremes that Natchez sells are a lot of bang for the buck and are available in 6-24 and 8-32X50. They pretty much meet your specs for $350. Do they have a lighted reticle? |
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Post by fishhawk on Sept 11, 2014 17:01:18 GMT -5
All the Classic Extremes have lit reticles. Very nice for the $.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 17:28:12 GMT -5
All the Classic Extremes have lit reticles. Very nice for the $. What's the catch then..?.do they not hold up ?...not good light gathering?.....I can't believe only 350 for such high power illuminated scope.....
Jeff I have a 6.5x20x50 Zeiss with qrw rings you could throw on your rig if you needed to... sorry no illumination though......
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Post by jims on Sept 11, 2014 19:25:30 GMT -5
I have a number of the Classic Extremes. They are good scopes, especially for the money.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 19:38:46 GMT -5
Sightron S-III 6x24x50 with MOA ret and ILLumination..SWFA has them, very good glass for the money and have NEVER read anything bad about them. will be my next scope, it or the 8X32
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Post by hankinsrfls on Sept 11, 2014 19:39:29 GMT -5
I have several scopes here that I could use,, I am just searching for other choices... Nightforce, Sightron and Vortex are my favorite scopes. Was just wondering if there were any other options. If Sightron made the 8-32X56 with a lighted reticle I would have it ordered by now. It this time they offer it in a 6-24 and a 10-50.. As soon as I order one of them the 8-32 will be on the market. I might take my 8-32X56 NSX off my 338 Lapua Rouge and use it, I just don't like switching back and forth. Once I have it dialed in I like to leave it alone...
Thanks for the input.... Jeff.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 19:50:14 GMT -5
I've been really impressed with my Weaver Super Slam Euro so far for the money, it may not be equal to some of the others mentioned here but for the money I'd bet they are hard to beat. I'm ready to click the order button for another one very soon... This time, I'll get the illuminated version.
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Post by fishhawk on Sept 11, 2014 20:07:14 GMT -5
All the Classic Extremes have lit reticles. Very nice for the $. What's the catch then..?.do they not hold up ?...not good light gathering?.....I can't believe only 350 for such high power illuminated scope.....
Jeff I have a 6.5x20x50 Zeiss with qrw rings you could throw on your rig if you needed to... sorry no illumination though......
There is no catch in my opinion. Just comparable to a scope that costs at least half again if not twice as much. A bunch of us long time members have them because of the value. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 21:22:47 GMT -5
What's the catch then..?.do they not hold up ?...not good light gathering?.....I can't believe only 350 for such high power illuminated scope.....
Jeff I have a 6.5x20x50 Zeiss with qrw rings you could throw on your rig if you needed to... sorry no illumination though......
There is no catch in my opinion. Just comparable to a scope that costs at least half again if not twice as much. A bunch of us long time members have them because of the value. Thanks for filling me in 2500.00 later,....lol, I'll buy 3.... |
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Post by markb317 on Sept 11, 2014 21:40:26 GMT -5
NightForce NXS 5.5-22X56 NPR1 reticle or an Atacr MoarT reticle both have lit reticles and high speed turrents and zero stop so it easy to turn back to your 100yd zero without looking.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 22:02:30 GMT -5
NightForce NXS 5.5-22X56 NPR1 reticle or an Atacr MoarT reticle both have lit reticles and high speed turrents and zero stop so it easy to turn back to your 100yd zero without looking. $2k+ ..Right? ....If I hit it big that would be all my brothers here a merry Christmas gift..... |
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Post by markb317 on Sept 11, 2014 23:52:35 GMT -5
NightForce NXS 5.5-22X56 NPR1 reticle or an Atacr MoarT reticle both have lit reticles and high speed turrents and zero stop so it easy to turn back to your 100yd zero without looking. $2k+ ..Right? ....If I hit it big that would be all my brothers here a merry Christmas gift..... It might be expensive but worth every penny if you used one you would see why they are used by so many. I could not believe I would spend that much on a scope when I bought my first, but now have Two. |
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Post by rossman40 on Sept 12, 2014 0:40:47 GMT -5
Weaver's Classic Extreme was the predecessor of the new Super Slam and Tactical scopes. 4" eye relief, 30mm tubes, 4X erectors, big objectives with excellent glass (maybe a notch below SIII) for great low light performance and available with illuminated SFP reticles (illuminated dot). When Weaver dropped them from the line-up Natchez sold a ton of them at the reduced price, the original MSRP was like $1k and Natchez was selling them for like $323. I know of guys who bought 5 or 6 and guys around here bought quite a few. Natchez wanted more and made a deal with Weaver to have limited production continued but to meet the price Natchez wanted they are now made in the Philippines instead of Japan, different turrets and the glass supposedly is changed from high end Japanese to high end Chinese (Leupold VX-3s and lower have Chinese glass). I have a Japanese 2.5-10X56 WCE and I'll probly be buried with it. I've only known of one going bad belonging to a boardmember and Weaver fixed it and had it back to him in less then 3 weeks.
Weaver relized it was a mistake to drop the line and came out with the Super Slam Euro the following year to replace it. They use the guts out of the Tactical line so the Euros have a FFP reticle.
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Post by Alabama on Sept 13, 2014 3:45:37 GMT -5
"And now you know the rest of the story" - Rossman
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Post by bestill on Sept 13, 2014 4:50:44 GMT -5
Where are euro made. Quality of glass on new model?
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