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Post by jsthntn247 on Sept 10, 2014 15:07:13 GMT -5
I think I want a ram rod that stays in the rifle. It seems you would mill a channel out in the forend for the ramrod to slide into. My questions are 1. Should there be anything in the end of the cannel for the rod to secure to, if so what and where can you find one. I'm assuming this could be epoxied into the end of the channel and the rod slides into it 2. Where can one find a ram rod barrel band for the rod to ride under the barrel?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2014 15:31:36 GMT -5
put in a ramrod tube and install a screw in the end, no need for a barrel band, the whole rig can be epoxied in. I use a 13/32" brass tube from K&S engineering from the local ace hdwe and a ss screw/washer/ nut that gets epoxied in the end next to the lug. works very well
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Post by jsthntn247 on Sept 10, 2014 15:53:11 GMT -5
put in a ramrod tube and install a screw in the end, no need for a barrel band, the whole rig can be epoxied in. I use a 13/32" brass tube from K&S engineering from the local ace hdwe and a ss screw/washer/ nut that gets epoxied in the end next to the lug. works very well Can you post a picture of your set up Hb.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2014 18:42:33 GMT -5
Will have to look and see if I have pics
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Post by doc25 on Sept 15, 2014 13:07:12 GMT -5
Good idea. When the rod is threaded in it will keep the rod from doing that little 1-2" jump from recoil.
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Post by 03mossy on Sept 15, 2014 14:02:15 GMT -5
Will have to look and see if I have pics Any luck finding pics for this project? I would also appreciate them, Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2014 15:50:14 GMT -5
I looked but I cant find any, I have to do one soon (week or two) and can take pics then?
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Post by jsthntn247 on Sept 15, 2014 17:10:09 GMT -5
I havnt seen any pictures yet but I had it in my head to do these steps. Cut ramrod channel in the forend of the stock with a mil extending into lug recess of stock. Use a nut and screw that will screw in ram rod. Cut the screw off even with the nut on back side with enough threads sticking out front for ramrod to fully thread on to. Coat ramrod and exposed screw threads with release agent. Lay ramrod into the channel that was cut in the for end of stock with screw and nut hanging just into the lug recess of stock. Bed the action as normal and let the devcon coat the nut and end of ramrod. Afte r the devcon has hardened but before it gets rock solid, unscrew the ramrod and screw it back in a few times to loosen any epoxy that might have gotten on threads. Re apply release agent then screw rod back in and let epoxy fully cure. The nut would be covered with cured epoxy but the threaded end will be exposed at the end if ramrod channel for ram rod to screw into. Probably an easier way to do it though.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2014 17:12:44 GMT -5
The tube hillbill uses is probably more failsafe for having the ramrod permanently attached but I've never tried your idea.
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Post by linebaugh on Sept 15, 2014 17:23:17 GMT -5
I do not use the screw method however the way you propose to do this will work just fine. I use 3 pieces of aluminum tent pole reamed to fit the rod and I epoxy the sections in one at a time. While installing I put a very slight bind in each section so that when finished you actually have a friction retainer. The last build I actually left a gap between the sections which I epoxied right over the rod. You must use release agent to do this.
When finished my rod will push in and pull out with slight pressure yet it remains quite tight and captive. My rods do typically jump forward an inch or two under recoil but it does not affect anything.
Hope that helps.
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Post by smokeeter on Sept 15, 2014 18:07:35 GMT -5
here's a method to secure the rod to your rifle, the stud is attached to the recoil lug and the ramrod gets screwed to the stud.
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Post by Jon on Sept 15, 2014 18:44:59 GMT -5
Smokeeter +1
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2014 19:28:12 GMT -5
I cut the channel as you described but care will need to be taken to make sure you have enough clearance below the barrel, normally you will cut into the top of the sling stud.
I use a ss screw/washer/nut. normally I have to cut the screw down and if its a savage the screw will need to sit in front of the barrel nut. I use JB weld quick to set the tube initially and the screw just to make sure everything is placed perfectly
I bolt the barreled action into the stock and make sure clearances are correct and use shims if necessary til it dries (15 min), the tube is left three or four inches short of the end of the barrel.
the tubes I use fit very slightly loose and I use TC solid rods. I put a wrap of cellophane tape around the rod to keep it perfectly centered in the tube where it screws into the screw. after it sets I remove the rod and epoxy over the rod/channel and squeegee the epoxy smooth as it dries. you can make the channel almost perfect this way.
after its done I scuff the tube and paint with flat black epoxy. IF the rod is slightly loose in the tube slide in a 3/8" wooden dowell and lay it on a piece of wood and using a center punch make three or four indentions to tighten the rod before paint. I have done many this way and it works very well. I have also used detent plungers tapped into the stock extending into the tube with a groove cut into the rod with a lathe. works even better......
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Post by jsthntn247 on Sept 15, 2014 20:24:20 GMT -5
Looking forward to pics hill bill
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