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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2014 18:16:24 GMT -5
So I've noticed people have asked questions about which bullet "I" should use for shooting deer. I thought is start a thread that prone could voice their opinion on which bullet they prefer and why.
Now I know the match hunters and Luke's AP bullets will do the job however some of us need to remember that $2.40 a bullet and ordering 50 at a time is hard for some people. Another thing in my opinion the performance bullets AP and MH are for longer range 300+ yards which allot of us don't shoot that far out want too.
In my opinion the SST/FTX 200,250,300 bullets and the Barnes 195, the TEZ 250,290. Along with the Hornady XTP 200-300 bullets will all kill deer also. I prefer the 250 SST/FTX bullet Zen and I have proven they will shoot accurately to 300 and are working on 400 yards. Along with Richard who I feel is our best source for "cheap" deer hunting bullets and continues to prove how accurate these bullets can be.
Zen has put more deer down than anyone knows with the 250 TEZ Barnes and most of all of them have dropped in their tracks. Last year I shot my first mule deer with the FTX and I've never seen a deer drop so fast before in my life. The shot was on the right front shoulder and excited behind the left shoulder. Shot was only 150 yards.
Guess what I'm trying to say is as a team/family we need to understand that not everyone wants to shoot the performance bullets and some of us that are new would like some information that caters to our needs. Along with not feeling like we need the hot rod to start out with and be over whelmed with a price tag.
I hope we can give great information for those who are lurking and still trying to decide what to get and season is right around the corner!
RR
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Post by rambler on Aug 24, 2014 18:18:57 GMT -5
Awesome thread. watching with interest
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Post by Richard on Aug 24, 2014 18:34:22 GMT -5
Rrat........You hit it right on the head. All good choices. You just have to pick one and play with which charge it likes best. Your choice is going to be predicatd on how far you plan to shoot. Richard
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Post by GMB54-120 on Aug 24, 2014 18:37:00 GMT -5
I use mostly 275gr BE just because they shoot so well in the ULA and i got a bunch of them. I pretty much stick to "text book" broadside boiler room shots and they work fine. In my 45s i like the 200gr SST simply because it shoots better than the Barnes for me.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2014 20:43:13 GMT -5
RR, great thread, and you touched on most all the heavy hitters. I too agree that find what shoots good for you, is within your budget and will do the job or perform like you expect it to at your given yardages and surroundings. I'm shooting MH's in the .45 and will likely switch to SST's when they run out, providing I can get them to shoot satisfactory, I'm confident the sst's will adequately take deer at my given distances where I hunt, If I go somewhere where I can shoot longer ranges then maybe I'll go back to the MH's. Soon I will be shooting a 40 cal and will try 200sst, 195barnes and 240CEB. My plans are to shoot the CEB for hunting but I guess I will have to wait and see what shoots the best and go from there.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2014 20:51:36 GMT -5
Rrat........You hit it right on the head. All good choices. You just have to pick one and play with which charge it likes best. Your choice is going to be predicatd on how far you plan to shoot. Richard Richard is right on.... Every bullet mentioned is more than accurate enough... Chad is also right on... Every bullet mentioned is a proven deer killer. If the lower BC bullets mentioned are limited it's because they run out of poop around 400-450yds... When they hit the 800 fpe mark I let that determine their effectiveness... I've killed deer with everyone of those bullets except the XTP's... more than a dozen over 300yds. None have failed and none of the deer or antelope have went over 10yds... I've never hit one closer than 150yds so I don't know how they work up close... Going to hunt with some 275 MH this year.. So far they shoot sub-moa out to 400... Before Chad and I hit the prarie in search of us a prarie goat I'm going to shoot out to 600yds just to say I did... Chances are that I'll go back to my alltime favorite the 250 TEZ after this year... That bullet puches a 2" hole all the way through no matter what angle... Everyone I've hit with them from 250- 325yds have died In their tracks...We're way overgunned no matter what bullet we shoot. It's all fun Zen
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Post by pposey on Aug 24, 2014 22:53:39 GMT -5
Speed is also a huge factor, I shot plenty of deer with a .45 250sst and had complete pass throughs and expansion at the same time, sweet bullet at 2300fps,, used the .40 200sst with simular rezults out of my shorty pacnor at 2400fps.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2014 4:23:46 GMT -5
which bullet? they all work, probably the best killer out there would be the TEZ brothers but the FTX is good too and a lot cheaper to shoot. I use the Match Hunters because they shoot really well and kill well but they should @ 2.25 a pop. necessary? NO. the little 195 and 200 sst do great as well but you fight the wind at distance.
As Zen said, we are way over gunned, kind of like shooting a squirrel with a .22 but who knows, when a world record Grizzly decides he wants to eat you for lunch you have enough gun..LOL
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Post by oldsnow on Aug 25, 2014 21:08:45 GMT -5
Don't forget Hornady's new kid on the block, their .458 Mono-Flex. I took 10 deer with this bullet last year, a couple of then at a little over 200yds. I only recovered one bullet out of the 10 kills.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2014 21:20:50 GMT -5
Don't forget Hornady's new kid on the block, their .458 Mono-Flex. I took 10 deer with this bullet last year, a couple of then at a little over 200yds. I only recovered one bullet out of the 10 kills. That monoflex is Hornady's version of the Barnes TEZ... Like you said... deer killing machines. Zen
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Post by edge on Aug 26, 2014 8:00:21 GMT -5
YIKES! Which bullet A man's got to know his BULLETS limitations A fragile bullet shot at high velocity will not penetrate far unless it has good mass or high sectional density...period. I have shot .452 250 grain pistol bullets at over 2600 fps at deer 30 yards away and have nearly amputated the entire front leg but the fragments killed the deer even though i never found any. The same shot taken from the rear would have resulted in a deer running off on three legs as the fragments would never have reached past the guts. The same bullet at 200 yards will penetrate most of the length of the deer as long as it does not hit big bone. Choose your shots according to the bullet you choose and the velocity at which the bullet will impact and almost any bullet will do. There will be times when you may not be able to pull the trigger do to your choices so choose wisely edge.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 8:27:15 GMT -5
YIKES! Which bullet A man's got to know his BULLETS limitations A fragile bullet shot at high velocity will not penetrate far unless it has good mass or high sectional density...period. I have shot .452 250 grain pistol bullets at over 2600 fps at deer 30 yards away and have nearly amputated the entire front leg but the fragments killed the deer even though i never found any. The same shot taken from the rear would have resulted in a deer running off on three legs as the fragments would never have reached past the guts. The same bullet at 200 yards will penetrate most of the length of the deer as long as it does not hit big bone. Choose your shots according to the bullet you choose and the velocity at which the bullet will impact and almost any bullet will do. There will be times when you may not be able to pull the trigger do to your choices so choose wisely edge. This is a very good observation and comment, which is very true. When I'm hunting I only prefer broad side shots or very close to it. If I don't have the shot I won't take it just how I am. With that said in my opinion the FTX BE's and XTP bullets are broad side shot bullets or very close to it. In 2011 I took a shot where I wanted to hit the deer in the front shoulder to anchor the deer. The deer still ran 50 yards out of sight. She was still dead but where I shot her still didn't do what I wanted. Along with I enjoy eating deer so I prefer to get all the meat off the animal and by shooting her in the shoulder I ruined all the meat on that shoulder. After that i decided I wouldn't take that shot again, this is just how I hunt.
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Post by doc25 on Aug 28, 2014 12:39:58 GMT -5
I took a 70 yd front chest shot with the 300gr xtp recovered the bullet in the hind quarter somewhere. It had expanded to 70-75 cal. Good bullets. Broadside I get pass through with little meat damage unless you hit the shoulder.
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