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Post by BuckDoeHunter on Jul 15, 2014 19:29:25 GMT -5
I wanted to experiment with some sabotless shooting with the Elite and some Barnes all copper bullets. I had 4 of the Barnes 250gr TEZ flat base bullets left, so off to the range. I loaded a 195gr Barnes Expander first to check my POI, it hit about an inch low of the bullseye at 100 yards. I then lightly knurled the 250gr TEZ. After trimming the petals off a MMP sabot and placing it in the barrel, I loaded the bullet which only took a little effort to get the base of the bullet passed the crown, then it slid down the barrel with very little pressure on the ramrod, IMO, too little pressure. The next 3 shots, I tried to put a heavier knurl on the bullet which did load with more resistance and seemed more accurate for me. 1st shot with light knurl: high and right 2 and 3 with more knurl: left of bullseye, right of bullseye 4th: low on bullseye no cool down between shots with all 4 shots, 2 3/4 inch group, not too bad and will get the job done on a deer at 100yds but I need to get some more TEZ bullets to see if the more aggressive knurl will hold a tighter group. Leave out the light knurl shot and it measures 1 3/4 inch. All shots were with 120gr of BH209. Anyone else try TEZs sabotless in your Elite? After letting my barrel cool down, I shot a 3 shot group with the 195gr Barnes Expanders with a blue Harvester sabot and 120gr of BH209. No cool down between shots, all bullets shot with a light knurl. This will be my hunting load this fall, although I will be doing some cold weather testing between the Harvester and MMP sabots this winter. Slightly less than 3/4 inch group. The low shot is my first shot on a clean barrel before the sabotless test.
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Post by bestill on Jul 16, 2014 5:06:00 GMT -5
What twist is elite? IMO Twist rate a bit slow for longer solid copper bullet unless you have a special knight that came with fast twist. Also solid copper bullet to hard to get bullet swell with slower black powder or subs. Some members have been annealing bullets to make soft ..
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2014 6:25:25 GMT -5
Nice testing. IMO a wool wad will produce better accuracy sabotless instead of the cut down sabot under the bullet. The TEZ's don't need annealed. They are soft copper compared to Cutting Edge copper. Removing the plastic tip to anneal would be a PITA anyway
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