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Post by ozark on Jan 19, 2009 14:28:52 GMT -5
Along the highways and biways of my area many whitetail deer are hit by cars and under nomal circumstances are left to vultures in the ditchlines. Fresh killed deer are excellent coyote bait and can be relocated easily enough. I like to stake one to the ground in a manner that animals cannot drag it into thickets and simply watch from my cabin blind. This offers me a chance to shoot not only coyotes but crows and a new type of buzzard that has migrated north out of Mexico. This buzzard has a feathered head and is slightly smaller than the oridinary turkey vullture. They are agressive and often peck the eyes out of calfs being born. Farmers wants them shot on sight and as far as I know it is not illegal to do so. I do not shoot the turkey vulture. I like to stake out these dead deer around 125 yards from my hunting shack. This enablesl me to reach for the .17 HMR or the .243 depending on the animal I intend to shoot. It doesn't take long for coyotes to find the bait. Sometimes bear come to these baits but that is situation I sort of keep mum about. Ben
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Post by raf on Jan 19, 2009 16:45:41 GMT -5
I tried it once but not with a deer carcass. It's kind of a funny story. My wife had me get something out of the deep freeze for here and in the process I pulled out the thanksgiving turkey and put it on her ironing board until I got what I needed. You guessed it, I didn't put it back. A day later we went away and the turkey was still on the ironing board. Our kids came home regularly to check the house for us and each time they thought the smelled something. After quite some time our son decided to look for the source of the smell and found the turkey. He phoned us to ask what to do with it, should he put it back in the freezer. Told him no, put it out side and it would refreeze there and I'd get another one. Anyway, when I got back it was outside frozen again and kind of green. I took it out to where we usually deer hunt, unwrapped it, and set it on an old pail about 100 yds from one of my blinds. It sat there for weeks before something took it away. It must have been pretty bad if the coyotes didn't want it right away. Good thing I didn't sit in my blind waiting for the coyote . We joked that it probably gave the coyote a good belly ache and a bad case of the trotts.
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Post by dannoboone on Jan 19, 2009 20:55:05 GMT -5
One of my cousins raises and feeds out cattle in SW Nebraska. He has hundreds of them. Sometimes he loses one or two in the fall and winter. Anymore, calling in the rendering truck is expensive. So he got the idea of leaving out a dead steer for the coyotes......... about 250yds from the feeding lot. Being a good farmer/rancher, my cousin is out feeding the livestock at the crack of dawn. You guessed it, the coyotes are there feeding on the carcass. He, too, has a .243, and has gotten dozens of coyotes off those dead carcasses over the years.
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Post by ozark on Jan 19, 2009 22:09:37 GMT -5
Sounds like killing two birds with one stone and enjoying the joys of predator hunting while at work.
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Post by jims on Jan 19, 2009 23:01:02 GMT -5
Ozark: The "normal" buzzards around here I believe are turkey vultures, the new type I think are called black vultures. They let the turkey vultures find the carcass and often I have heard they then "run" the turkey vultures off and claim the food. They are more messy also, their feet at time are white with their own droppings. Nasty birds, I do not think they would taste too good fried.
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Post by youp50 on Jan 20, 2009 6:02:40 GMT -5
An up and coming winter event in these parts are predator hunts. They are sponsored by sportsman's clubs. An entry fee will get you a dinner and some good company. Quite often the winning pair have been out all night watching bait sights. Guys that own diners or are friends with a diner owner do well. There are enough timber wolves around that keep the road side free of deer carcasses. First prize is usually a couple hundred bucks.
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Post by jkruger on Jan 20, 2009 12:40:50 GMT -5
i have a deer carcas staked down 75yds from the kitchen window. coyotes havent found it yet, nor the foxes. it is buried under 2ft. of snow right now. going to put some mid winter type canine lure on a piece of wool and tie it to some brush for attractant. hope this brings them in. fun sport, last year i took several foxes this way. we presantly have a shortage of coyotes due in part to the hound guys in the area. they have been quite successful in the past 4 years. jk
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Post by youp50 on Jan 22, 2009 15:15:51 GMT -5
jk,
I have found a most effective way to get coyotes on a bait is to use the birds. Up here we have ravens. They have a specific call to indicate they have found food. IMO crows do the same. Stake your bait near a tree so they have a place to rest and watch and call to each other. Keep your bait free from snow for the birds. Conversely, bobcat baits require thick conifer stands to keep the birds off. With no birds calling and the bobcat preferring heavy thick cover it won't be long until a cat is hanging working your bait.
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Post by jarheadodie on Jan 31, 2009 18:42:57 GMT -5
Two methods I have heard of recently. One guy this past spring was turkey hunting and was clucking on his call...killed five coyotes in two days with his shotgun!
Next one takes more time in sitting and waiting...lay two square bales of straw or hay butted together on their sides to form a square. Stake them down with rebar between a timber and a field if possible. Sprinkle shelled corn in a circle around the bales and wait a couple of weeks. Replace the corn if it is being taken then set up a blind downwind. The corn will attract many mice that will then hole up under the hay/straw. The coyotes will stand on the bales and wait for the mice to get the grain. Nothing like a target on a pedestal, huh?
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Post by jkruger on Feb 2, 2009 19:10:54 GMT -5
now that is a cool idea . the first i've heard of using bales and corn in that manner. jk
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Post by petev on Feb 2, 2009 21:31:01 GMT -5
Hunting coyotes is something I haven't tried yet, but have been thinking about. I can get bait and put it out, but my question is how do you know roughly when to go on stand to wait for them, assuming that some of us dont have a trail camera? Pete
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Post by jarheadodie on Feb 3, 2009 17:33:47 GMT -5
Hey JK, Also I heard one guys saying that he puts out some JB's Bloodbait - catfish bait to really get some smells in the air. It's compact and goes a long way stinkifyingly speaking. I plan to use it in combination with a CD boom box with some free MP3 downloaded coyote calls. I have observed while in the deerstand that they are very active searching for food early morning hours...need to do more research. My rancher buddy says they gather at dusk to eat on his dead cattle dump area. Good Luck! Chris
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Post by jkruger on Feb 4, 2009 5:23:15 GMT -5
Hey Chris, thanks for the tips. the bloodbait does sound like a good lure . Is that a pellet , paste or liquid?
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Post by jarheadodie on Feb 4, 2009 6:13:09 GMT -5
JK, The one we have around here is a thick paste in a white jar. That's what I plan to use...smear it around in a wide area. Good Luck!
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