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Post by mattroth54 on Sept 11, 2013 14:19:20 GMT -5
Every once in a while, about every 20 cycles of the bolt, my trigger locks up. Put more clearly, the accutrigger freezes, and won't move back. Its simple enough to fix, just recocking enables it to resume normal operation. This gun is clean and well maintained. I wouldn't expect this in a high quality gun like a Savage. Any ideas?
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Post by gunstock on Sept 11, 2013 14:35:35 GMT -5
Most likely you are pulling to the side of the trigger instead of straight back. I am sure some others with more knowledge will chime in.
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Post by mattroth54 on Sept 11, 2013 14:47:54 GMT -5
Nope. It's locked no matter which direction it's pulled. Not sure why I'd pull the trigger to the side.
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Post by rubberduck on Sept 11, 2013 15:29:49 GMT -5
Mine did that once but with someone else behind the trigger. They didn't pull straight back on the blade and it wedged itself out before the gun went off.
One that's doing it on a regular basis might be a spring walking around maybe? That's just thinking out loud really, pull the action from the stock and see if you can get it to lock up that way so you'll have a better view of what's going on.
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Post by XTR on Sept 11, 2013 15:32:00 GMT -5
Usually this is a symptom of accutriggers set very light. The sear doesn't reset and drops onto the first stage/safety and the trigger won't operate. I've seen it many times on the line at F class matches.
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Post by rossman40 on Sept 11, 2013 15:48:11 GMT -5
Trust us, ether the sear dropped while closing the bolt or during the trigger pull you didn't push the Accutrigger blade all the way.
As far as during the trigger pull one of the common mistakes is inserting to much finger thru the trigger guard. Instead of the trigger being activated with the "pad" of the finger insuring the Accutrigger blade is fully depressed before the trigger is moved. The blade goes into the crease of the finger thus as a result the sear catches the blade. Train your finger.
If the sear drops during closing of the bolt you may have the trigger pull adjusted too light and your not getting a good reset/engagement on the sear.
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Post by billc on Sept 11, 2013 18:09:22 GMT -5
I've had that happen a few times. Mine was caused by not getting the bolt closed and I'm talking a gnat's whisker from closed. Working the bolt always resets everything just fine.
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Post by mattroth54 on Sept 11, 2013 20:03:23 GMT -5
 Ok, I got it to do it again. This time, I removed the barrel from the stock. As some suggested, it looks like the sear released as the bolt was cocked. It's the same result hitting the trigger without touching the accutrigger. I know I didn't bump the trigger, so does this sound like a trigger that is set a bit too sensitive? I attached a pic in the locked state. |
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Post by 1sniper on Sept 11, 2013 20:07:25 GMT -5
Usually yes the easiest fix is to turn the screw in about a 1/4-1/2 turn and then retest like you are in a hurry and slamming the bolt home.
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Post by rossman40 on Sept 13, 2013 8:43:56 GMT -5
As 1sniper said bump up your tension a bit. You want to also make sure there is no grease or FOD in the sear groove on the trigger. This is a no lube area on the Savage, lube will hold any piece of FOD in a bad area. Also on the Savage, if it is shot a lot, it can develop a "curl" of metal on the sear.
The Savage actually cocks on opening. During closing the cocking piece comes off the notch on the bolt body and goes onto the sear which then holds back the cocked firing pin assembly. A Remy 700 is basicly the same.
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Post by edwardamason on Sept 13, 2013 16:39:23 GMT -5
I am probably one of the few peeps that does not like the accu trigger. Call me crazy but when I pull a trigger on a ML I want it to go Bang every time.
Ive set up many MLII for buds and my sons MLII sports a Accutrigger. I have experienced the "false pull" on the trigger on occasion. It is clearly a operator error when it happens. But my point is it should not happen. When a trigger is pulled the ML should go bang. Gloved hands? Buck Fever? Over excitement? Cold Numb fingers? Fatigue mind out of the game? It happens on hunts if you hunt long enough. Savage should have corrected this a long time ago. Either with a fix for it or a whole new design.
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Post by 1sniper on Sept 14, 2013 4:48:00 GMT -5
I am probably one of the few peeps that does not like the accu trigger. Call me crazy but when I pull a trigger on a ML I want it to go Bang every time. Ive set up many MLII for buds and my sons MLII sports a Accutrigger. I have experienced the "false pull" on the trigger on occasion. It is clearly a operator error when it happens. But my point is it should not happen. When a trigger is pulled the ML should go bang. Gloved hands? Buck Fever? Over excitement? Cold Numb fingers? Fatigue mind out of the game? It happens on hunts if you hunt long enough. Savage should have corrected this a long time ago. Either with a fix for it or a whole new design. Oh no I'm with you. I can't stand the accutrigger, it feels like you are pulling a double trigger and I just can't get used to the pressure of the blade on my finger. I always replace them on all of my guns and I have allot of savages. |
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Post by lee on Sept 25, 2013 20:40:48 GMT -5
My trigger also freezes if the action bolt is too tight and the bolt falls out when it is torqued to operational level. Not sure why. Lifting the bolt handle and dropping it down again resolves the problem.. However, the bolt will still fall out of the receiver if it is pulled back too far.
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Post by rossman40 on Sept 26, 2013 6:30:26 GMT -5
Lee, that sounds serious like a inleting problem. Is it factory?
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Post by lee on Sept 26, 2013 9:01:26 GMT -5
Yes, it is a thumb hole stock laminate that I added to the most recent ml2 release. If this the problem... I'm not sure what to do and not sure I have the tools or talent to correct it. Just being honest, don't want to mess an otherwise functioning rifle. Thanks for the response!
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Post by lee on Sept 26, 2013 9:01:39 GMT -5
Yes, it is a thumb hole stock laminate that I added to the most recent ml2 release. If this the problem... I'm not sure what to do and not sure I have the tools or talent to correct it. Just being honest, don't want to mess an otherwise functioning rifle. Thanks for the response!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2013 9:30:47 GMT -5
Lee, that sounds serious like a inleting problem. Is it factory? I have to agree that if your bolt will come out freely its a serious problem and I would be hesitant to fire it. Most after market stocks need some fitting. Is the barrel free floated? If you went from a synthetic to a laminate are you using the correct front action screw? |
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Post by lee on Sept 26, 2013 15:00:29 GMT -5
Problem solved... Installed a longer action bolt and all is good. Thanks so much for all the help... Just another question, the barrel free floated about half way up the stock, is this acceptable?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2013 19:12:58 GMT -5
Problem solved... Installed a longer action bolt and all is good. Thanks so much for all the help... Just another question, the barrel free floated about half way up the stock, is this acceptable? I would free float it so you can take a piece of paper or better yet a business card and be able to slide it freely from end of stock to the recoil lug, or barrel nut in your case. |
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Post by markb317 on Sept 26, 2013 22:11:03 GMT -5
you can always swap out your accutrigger for a rifle basix sav-2 trigger. This will do away with the blade all together.
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