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Don't let the Swarovski sales hype fool you. The Z3 comes off the same line as the Zeiss Conquest and the Minox right here in the US. Where exactly the parts come from who knows... There is so much Chinese components in the Swarovski line now who knows. Their video explaining and demonstrating the turrent was a joke, the proof shots at 100 and 400 yds looked to be the exact same clip. Still a nice thought out set-up. I think you might run out of clicks to go past 350 or 400yds
Right now the HD5s are coming from Germany and with the advantage of the 5X erector wins in my opinion. Your looking at the same amount of money. With a decent ballistic reticle no need to dial.
I'm still waiting on Hillbill's report on the HD5.
The tricky stuff is best left to those who are highly experienced in operating at the ragged edge of stability and sanity.
I like the rapid Z system but then again Im not a knob turner, most places i hunt are narrow lanes with little time to aquire the target and fire so I have just never taken the time to dial in the yardage. I have the RZ 800 reticle on my rigs and I really like it but if you have target knobs a mildot or duplex is much less cluttered
the 5x25 is mounted on a build that I plan to shoot today if the weather holds so I should know more soon but this much I do know, playing with it at dusk last night I can say it is at least as good as the last conquest models in the clarity and resolution dept. I like the dials on this scope as well, If one wants to dial in corrections it is quick, smooth and uncluttered..the turrets lock in place so there is no worrys about getting dials moved around.
having used the Z-3 on another build I can honestly say I was more impressed with the zeiss but the Z-3 was a good scope as well. my own opinion before testing the zeiss is that its the better value but that could change after shooting it for a while. it could turn out to be a dog but I seriously doubt that Zeiss would send a dog out of their home country...will know more this afternoon............
As to what is best is up to the user. Some like duplex, some like mildots, some like ballistic reticles. As long as you remember that the Rapid-Z and MilDot reticles change values depending on what magnification you are using, they are ok.